Human Interviews Episode 17

Episode_17 out now on #mixcloud has @cole______g (Cole Garlando) in conversation with Shakya and Nicole Kim. This ep. features some of their thoughts and ideas from that day on #love, #perception, #songwriting, #psychosis, #meditation, and #self. Shakya, and Nicole Kim (aka Dakimi) are stellar human beings currently living in Germany. Shakya is a former Buddhist monk who is currently a university student of psychology. Nicole Kim is a singer/songwriter who recently finished her master’s thesis on solar energy. Inside this episode you will hear an original song, “Sell Me Two” with lyrics by Dakimi in collaboration with handpan musician, Mandakini. This episode was recorded in September 2022 and was technically the final episode of Human Interviews created for @verge.fm though it has not been available to listen to until now via this link! Stay tuned for more new episodes of HUMAN INTERVIEWS throughout 2023 as the project continues ❤ Thank you to Shakya and Nicole Kim for their share and significant share that day; to all those who support and contribute to this project throughout the years; and to everyone who is listening. I’m so joyful and honored to be sharing these again. Take good care out there. Listen to the episode

the end came quick

photo by Jovita Purqueras: me masked and a window, refelcted in my paper pile piece from DISTANCE at Cultural Arts Center (2020)

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it seize them like a broken string

stretched taught, and conditionally

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conditions change.

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a dream i had a year ago or so, that remains with me:
i am waking from a nap having been up before the sun to do things. i live in a small, tall house with light linen curtains blowing in a warm breeze. it is before noon and i am hungry. there is a dog asleep near my bed and also waking. injured dogs heal and wake from their naps on the other two floors. i open my eyes, simlutaneously breathe and rise face up, left leg steps off the bed and i head toward a bureau for something. the house is warm with a sense that food is made steadily. there is much sky and green through the windows. a slight valley and a wildflower grass field down from the house. a creek, woods and trees and no other houses in view. there are a few some ways away over the ridge. i know they are friendly since i leave the windows open when i sleep.  

photo by Jovita Purqueras: me masked and a window, reflected in my paper pile piece from installation: DISTANCE at Cultural Arts Center (2020)

what if gravity is not what we think?

three sheets of grey paper staggered and layered w minimal marks of sharpie, black paint, and turqiouse patina from copper along with this piece of writing

change is perceived and we call it TIME.

IMAGINE space is a plasma-like substance and TIME is the movement of mass which creates variable waves in all directions. waves create dimensions. whether planets, light or energy – mass is moving and changing. we observe it from our perspective. and so, OUR perspective is TIME. TIME has nothing to do with the actual thing. the observer has an un/knowable effect on the whole and the speed while simultaneously remaining un/able to perceive the whole or speed of things. 

RADIUS IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN A POINT AND ITS ORIGIN.

we will believe anything. we want to explain our universe our perception our history our reality.

IMAGINE if you will, that the current model of two neutron stars or blackholes is wrong. that space is not a fabric or vacuum. space is more like the depth of the sea. IMAGINE waves move in all directions beyond our dimensional perception from forces. not merely in spiraling trails behind, because there is no direction. gravity isn’t what we think. i do not believe the space we measure is the surface (though maybe it is) but more like the depths EXCEPT there is more than gravity working. though from our perspective we can not perceive what it is. IMAGINE the fluid-like substance of Space and imagine that its viscosity changes and moves – like brackish water and the sea EXCEPT instead of salt it is a different pool of atomic matter moving. 

things are moving around us and we are moving around things. size has nothing to do with speed, material or reality. from our limited perspective we cannot tell what is moving or in what direction. 

we grasp at something. 

at calendars

at science

at god

we love living. look at these trees! i love them and the sun shining. 

all while lives are worth less than money and there is much disease. 

i know the half-dozen people i connected to today smiled for a moment at least. 

i can’t tell what is going on.

i am interested in collectively deconstructing all of the major principles we believe and systems we conceive in order to offer different ideas, different ways of doing things, different ways of perceiving- to create a different reality, collectively.  

-nicole garlando nov 4, 2020

ae

first in site tag #AutoEthnography #ArchiveExcerpt for excerpts from my notebooks. The notebooks are a one-stop for my academic research | choreographic notes | poetry | meeting minutes | sketches | reflection | and dreams. The process of going through the last ten years of these is a ritual of burning things; making art of others; transcribing notes and revisiting somatic learning. It feeds a creative process and reminds me of community. I am grateful for the time with each person during the making of these as they continue. Grateful to process experience and honor its change. Plus- I love my brain (whatevr that is).

(2014)

How we sit.

Unknown

in hard reflections

of windows

-the sound

breathing of

bus air

someone there

-the reflections 

of my computer 

in the window 

lights

of the phone

the sunset

the cup 

smiles 

the god


(excerpt 2015)

notes on the Eliot / Bales “Dance on Its Own Terms: Histories and Methodologies”

an historical exogesic. an in-depth analysis of dance “events” including specific dances; notation and music scores; accounts of performances; teaching styles; cultural and political movements; physical movements; dance theory; film; technological advances; makers and processes.

“exegesis that allows us to change

our perception and relationship

to what is already there in our field..”

? how might we take this awareness beyond discipline.
toward a meaning of the field of un/awareness; of non/perception.

Ideaology and historical position reveals itself in the choice of makers and things made. content and context in which a writer is made to engage with their own narrative invention, identity, relationality, gender, body and dance.

the body and the work
each as object of effect and as affective subject. 


(excerpt 2020)

Relationality, a start: 

movement to sound 

sound to story

story to history

history to culture

culture to identity

identity to language

movement to movement

movement to story

movement to history

movement to culture

movement to identity

movement to language

sound to sound

sound to history

sound to culture

sound to identity

sound to language

sound to movement

story to story

story to culture

story to identity

story to language

story to movement

story to sound

history to history

history to identity

history to language

history to movement

history to sound

history to story

culture to culture

culture to language

culture to movement

culture to sound

culture to story

culture to history

identity to identity

identity to movement

identity to sound

identity to story

identity to history

identity to culture

language to langauge

language to sound

language to story

language to history

language to culture

language to identity

language to movement.

(sound, go)

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details

jan 1, 2020 edit jan 18

i am not 

like i have ever been

something different 

about every cell of being

thoughts patterned 

turn off 

new bridges form

a way

to destiny

leave it

to be

a person

becoming

shock and wave

goodbye

comes free

light falls

just so

on the corner of me

my eye

face glows

left tired

by the night

sleep is

somewhere else

for now

i understand 

question

everything

i presume

as habits 

mount fears 

and carry me 

tame

they serve 

as transport

as path

burning bridge

disintegrate 

i cross to escape

nothing in me says i cannot 

become more 

than i sought

patience has brought action,

new thought.

image: photo of a phone’s footage – nicole in leslie’s surveillance camera jan 2020. description: photo of a screen and a thumb on black and white surveillance footage from leslie’s front room – nicole in light colored sweatshirt talking on the phone, pacing.

| Time In

Time In | FEBRUARY 25, 2017 | 6-9PM | Cultural Arts Center, Columbus OH | mfa thesis

TIME IN | FEBRUARY 25, 2017 | 6-9PM

the premiere of ‘Time In’ is three weeks away, I’m going over three years of this project’s process, excerpted here: rhrsl footage of justin and ella, audio interview with ali

Time In
the concept:
an experiential playground of an audio/visual/dance installation that interacts and reflects those in the room back to themselves with photo, video, motion capture abstraction, sound, and moving humans of flesh and color. the hope is humanitarian. for recognition.

Time In
the room:
1 choreographer | 11 dancers | 1 digital artist | 1 photographer | as many of you as possible

this project is created by the people in the room, come play with:

  • me, facilitation/choreography/concept
  • dancers Justin Fitch, Jovita Purqueras, Amy Kies-Budzynski, Mel Mark, Anna Vomacka, Megan Davis-Bushaway, Tamie Rietenbach, Ava Morgan, Cole Henry Jones, Kim Wilczak and Ella Hackworth
  • Vita Berezina-Blackburn, motion capture digital animation/mixed media artist
  • Kate Sweeney, photographer of color and light
  • strangers and friends

saturday, february 25, 2017 | open 6:00-9:00p | FREE for all people

being to being. eye to eye. hand to hand.

25FEB2017… Cultural Arts Center, Columbus OH… 6:00p-9:00P… audio/visual/movement installation… 1 choreographer | 11 dancers | 1 motion capture artist | 1 photographer | as many audience and participants as possible… #freeshow #freegame #freeplay #collaboration #play #playthegame #playersonly play as.. #playasidea #playasconversation #playasresearch #playasprotest #playasquestion #playascommunity #cometoplay #osudance #mfathesis #indedanceartist #facilitation #communityart #feverhead #publicart #publicinterviews #iwillaskyouquestionsandrecordwhatyousay #iwillaskyoutomoveandtotouch #youcansaynothankyou #itslikeagame #youcanchoosetowatch #howdoyouplay #comefindout #showup #februarytwentyfifth #anytimesixtoninepm #asseenincbus #asseenincolumbus

inspired by collecting human interviewsmaking and performing dance, and love for human life.

cropped-img_5200.jpgphoto by me

walkeye and the time-being

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photo nicole garlando

Listening to people. Their lives.

Walking home on Sunday I stop to talk to a man and his dog. We speak deeply, quickly. He brings up time and humanity which has me telling him about the interviews I’ve been collecting over the last few years. How the process is “unmooring me” as another friend has put it. He squares his eyes to mine. They change somehow and his being seems to reflect the space around him. He says “You’re lost. You don’t know where you are.”  We talk for a short while. A bit about his family, the dog. He tells me about being in the Vietnam War, how our government was “killing the wrong people… innocent people there living on land… it was horrible”. We walk on a bit. He tells me about his recent stroke; his gait and connection to gravity echo his description of this altered state of being. I shift as I listen and stumble on the uneven sidewalk. He reaches out to steady me. His eyes reach out. After a while I need to go as the encounter begins to circle; another element comes in and begins to pile. For the time being, our time unaligns. I feel it, say good evening and walk on. As I do he raises “a penny for your thoughts?” the same moment I call “see you again”.   

for the time being
for the time-being

pullquotes

I recently submitted a short paper for a theory and philosophy course with Dr. Harmony Bench that analyzes movement from the cosmic to the cellular. The following lines of my submission she’d underlined. It’s interesting to see where people connect with me. i put the “perception” one in bold below because i love it so.

“The dialogue I direct is one interested in the idea that we (in form and in sense) are weight in time, carved into being by movement”

“… the fleshbody as something other than self – it is an object of our subjective perception”

“What I’m looking at is our place of perception. In that place you are moving. The place is also moving.”

Continue reading “pullquotes”

“touch a nerve?” (anonymous)

mine
cole photo

Listening to the interviews I’ve collected.
Transcribing, re-living, processing with new ideas.

Imagine me as a tree growing lessons by the sun.

Ra

It’s like I’m tripping. Dripping.

Over the last two years I’ve recorded dozens of people, different ages in different parts of the world discussing their ideas of “self/not-self”, “time”, and now a third question I ask – which is about a word i’ve yet to find that for me gets at the idea of : “our un/known form, fleshsoulbeing in lived/imagined, perceived experiences and our place of perception”. i don’t know what the word is and ‘life’ doesn’t fit …

and now 3 – in relation to each, et al:

1. self/not-self

2. TIME

3. form/flesh, body/soul, being-in, lived/imagined, experiential point of perception

why/how is there difference (in us, in life, or in ideas 1.2.3) and why/how is that same?

words can mean anything.

and so when i ask if you want to do an interview of your thoughts on these things, I will ask permission to record our conversation. and if we do i will use your words in any form of text, dance, painting, podcast or made thing i create. you will remain referred to as ‘anonymous’, unless i ask you first.

in february 2017 a dance, inside a participatory environment, inside an audio and art installation made from this gathering will open. 8 dancers: justin, jovita, amy kb, tamie, anna v., mel m., megan d-b., and ava. three collaborators: vita berezina-blackburn, kate sweeney, and sharona udoh. me and a venue, unknown.

whatever happens there will be viewed as my mfa project (thesis).

the gathering and questions continued when i was born and will go on after i’m dead.

“words aren’t actual” (anonymous)

“… my feeling of it: its just one thing: everything everything everything. and so, this communication thing… there’s a temporal sort-of relationship to uhm.., so the separation, there’s a separation thing that happens so that understanding can occur but really, understanding is the thing. its just a thing – everything is [one];  so i like to..  i feel like it gets closer to..  it gets me closer to that thing or whatever when i hear what people think things are. and when you hear a lot of people … ya know?” – Cole

 

Artist or Healer?

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former studio

Sometimes we feel a difference in the two.

Sometimes we feel we have to choose.

The only thing we have to fear, is fear of self. Fear itself does not exist without us. Fear does not have a self, it must use ours. Fear of self.

darkness brightens light, consumed and the light deepens dark as it flows

Be not afraid #Momsaid
#icanhavetwofeelings

A million and one.

Notice your experience of love.
Or notice your suffering, then

Notice yourself noticing*

… just like dancing.

AhReTaIlSeTr | HaErAtLiEsRt

the HEARTIST.

*synchronicity has it – with gratitude, Shel. i finished this after you called.

 

 

 

 

 

MAtches

 

a new dance. maybe it’s called ‘matches’

justin fitch, jess gore, ray elder, ella hackworth, sheneese thompson, and orion and aries gore.

sound by cast and ammanuel tekeste.

i film in the  middle if this dance. i leave the typo if here instead of of because i recently received a deep text that had the typo of if instead of of. funny.

i am amazed by these people.

they have made a dance of nothing but thoughts.

what a grateful bag of water i am. – this “bag of water” is a beautiful reference i  stole from a student of mine – not sure i am institutionally allowed to mention their name, but if i am – i will. they described a dancer as moving this way.

                                         i feel… i feel. and i do other things too.

“i don’t get my feelings hurt anymore. they’re not my feelings anyway.” – jerry west

i wonder what does making have to do with feeling? what does feeling do to thinking? or who the flip cares?!!!? i get so tired of asking questions sometimes. it feels good to feel like i know. or that I am known. i do gravitate in the idea that knowdlege is fluid – an orbit where the state of knowledge is changeable – river to ice to air to …

maybe this is why i like to improvise. why i move no distance at all every few years. why i go through cycles, as it were…

i miss my family. they are so close and feel as if far, because time is different just a few hours away. Imagine the difference the further you go – except far enough is your mirror as
                                        the furthest distance looking straight at you, reflects you.
or something. who cares! i miss the kids swimming and fishing and basketball!

i miss my mom! mi familia. it is calling. i’ll see you in a couple weeks., love you all.

until then working school and being life and tossing sleep with deep breaths and learning to notice and so much gratitude my bag of self is too full of water for words.

water for words.
good title.
good metaphor.
    good trade.